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		<title>Comment on Gotta get yourself connected by Chirs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chirs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d also like to add that at least someone comes to church.  It may be for the wrong reasons, as many of us do things for the wrong reasons, but then we stay.  Once someone gets past the surface, maybe a difference can be made.  God will take over.  We are not in control.
Pray about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d also like to add that at least someone comes to church.  It may be for the wrong reasons, as many of us do things for the wrong reasons, but then we stay.  Once someone gets past the surface, maybe a difference can be made.  God will take over.  We are not in control.<br />
Pray about it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hymns Part 3 &#8211; The Self-rightous Elect by Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well! Another diatribe that seems to show a misunderstanding of hymnody and Scripture too. Your blog caught my eye this morning because of the quotation of James Rowe&#039;s &quot;I Would Be Like Jesus.&quot; (Today is the 76th anniversary of his death.) The line &quot;I would be [I want to be] like Jesus&quot; indicates this is an aspiration and a goal, not a boastful claim of sinless perfection. 

The hymn &quot;Do No Sinful Action,&quot; by Cecil Frances Alexander, was indeed intended as a children&#039;s hymn, but it is suitable for us all. It certainly reflects a sterner time--perhaps to our discredit! The Bible commands, &quot;As He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, because it is written, &#039;Be holy, for I am holy&#039;&quot; (I Pet. 1:15-16). God Himself is the standard by which we are to measure our conduct.

That this standard is impossible to meet is, in a sense, the point. We are immediately conscious of our own imperfections and impotence, and are reminded of the need for daily dependence on the grace of God. Awareness of our weakness should also engender in us a longing for Home, when &quot;we shall be like Him&quot; (I Jn. 3:2).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well! Another diatribe that seems to show a misunderstanding of hymnody and Scripture too. Your blog caught my eye this morning because of the quotation of James Rowe&#8217;s &#8220;I Would Be Like Jesus.&#8221; (Today is the 76th anniversary of his death.) The line &#8220;I would be [I want to be] like Jesus&#8221; indicates this is an aspiration and a goal, not a boastful claim of sinless perfection. </p>
<p>The hymn &#8220;Do No Sinful Action,&#8221; by Cecil Frances Alexander, was indeed intended as a children&#8217;s hymn, but it is suitable for us all. It certainly reflects a sterner time&#8211;perhaps to our discredit! The Bible commands, &#8220;As He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, because it is written, &#8216;Be holy, for I am holy&#8217;&#8221; (I Pet. 1:15-16). God Himself is the standard by which we are to measure our conduct.</p>
<p>That this standard is impossible to meet is, in a sense, the point. We are immediately conscious of our own imperfections and impotence, and are reminded of the need for daily dependence on the grace of God. Awareness of our weakness should also engender in us a longing for Home, when &#8220;we shall be like Him&#8221; (I Jn. 3:2).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hymns Part 6 &#8211; Jesus is my boyfriend by Jack Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What has always bothered me about these songs, as a theologian, are that they are almost exclusively addressed to the Son, but more specifically to the Son&#039;s humanity rather than to the Divine Logos.  Rarely will you hear mention of the Father, and almost never mention of the Spirit or the Holy Trinity.  Following &quot;lex orandi, lex credendi,&quot; looking solely at music, we fall into some sort of Sebellianism, though one in which there was never a change of &quot;mode&quot; from Son to Spirit.  

Going along with the recent direction of comments, it seems to me a rather odd generalization that these sorts of songs promote &quot;closeness&quot; to the Trinity.  Certainly, they promote warm feelings within ourselves, but I don&#039;t recall ever seeing a song that I would characterize as &quot;pennetential,&quot; nor is there any mention that we might have to &quot;do&quot; something to be close to Jesus: St. Peter states that we are participants in the Divine Nature, which implies activity rather than passive reception.  To put it more blutly, Divine Grace is given to us undeservedly, but we still have to lay hold of it.

To be honest, my favorite &quot;worship&quot; song was written nearly 1600 years ago, is commonly sung only at Christmas, and is quite, contemplating the Father&#039;s love rather than trying to show off mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What has always bothered me about these songs, as a theologian, are that they are almost exclusively addressed to the Son, but more specifically to the Son&#8217;s humanity rather than to the Divine Logos.  Rarely will you hear mention of the Father, and almost never mention of the Spirit or the Holy Trinity.  Following &#8220;lex orandi, lex credendi,&#8221; looking solely at music, we fall into some sort of Sebellianism, though one in which there was never a change of &#8220;mode&#8221; from Son to Spirit.  </p>
<p>Going along with the recent direction of comments, it seems to me a rather odd generalization that these sorts of songs promote &#8220;closeness&#8221; to the Trinity.  Certainly, they promote warm feelings within ourselves, but I don&#8217;t recall ever seeing a song that I would characterize as &#8220;pennetential,&#8221; nor is there any mention that we might have to &#8220;do&#8221; something to be close to Jesus: St. Peter states that we are participants in the Divine Nature, which implies activity rather than passive reception.  To put it more blutly, Divine Grace is given to us undeservedly, but we still have to lay hold of it.</p>
<p>To be honest, my favorite &#8220;worship&#8221; song was written nearly 1600 years ago, is commonly sung only at Christmas, and is quite, contemplating the Father&#8217;s love rather than trying to show off mine.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Live long and prosper? by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Piper has been integral in shaping my Christian life. He is a sage up there with C.S. Lewis in my opinion. Check out &quot;Desiring God&quot;... stellar!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Piper has been integral in shaping my Christian life. He is a sage up there with C.S. Lewis in my opinion. Check out &#8220;Desiring God&#8221;&#8230; stellar!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Living in a Bubble by Acidri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Acidri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. Its several months later but i guess you will still find my blog interesting on christian entertainment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. Its several months later but i guess you will still find my blog interesting on christian entertainment.</p>
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		<title>Comment on God is Love by A Free Spirit</title>
		<link>http://deconstructedchristian.wordpress.com/2008/01/17/god-is-love/#comment-4580</link>
		<dc:creator>A Free Spirit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does it mean to say God is love in a metaphysical sense?  I suspect the answer is more difficult than it might seem.  
You might be interested in the following post:(http://deligentia.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/deciphering-god-is-love/).

Nice post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does it mean to say God is love in a metaphysical sense?  I suspect the answer is more difficult than it might seem.<br />
You might be interested in the following post:(http://deligentia.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/deciphering-god-is-love/).</p>
<p>Nice post!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hymns Part 5 &#8211; Showers of Blessing by Faggot19</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faggot19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I give a bicycle to   my niece rather than to a stranger, my selection need not involve any   hostile attitude toward the stranger, no judgment that he is of lesser   basic moral worth or lesser earned merit than my relative. ,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I give a bicycle to   my niece rather than to a stranger, my selection need not involve any   hostile attitude toward the stranger, no judgment that he is of lesser   basic moral worth or lesser earned merit than my relative. ,</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unblocking and Waitressing by Anders Branderud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anders Branderud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Heather!
I found your blog and read some.
Nice of you to give food!

I think that the website www.netzarim.co.il will be of interest to you and your readers. It contains research about Ribi Yehoshua (the Messiah) from Nazareth and what he taught.

Have a nice day!
Anders Branderud</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Heather!<br />
I found your blog and read some.<br />
Nice of you to give food!</p>
<p>I think that the website <a href="http://www.netzarim.co.il" rel="nofollow">http://www.netzarim.co.il</a> will be of interest to you and your readers. It contains research about Ribi Yehoshua (the Messiah) from Nazareth and what he taught.</p>
<p>Have a nice day!<br />
Anders Branderud</p>
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		<title>Comment on Live long and prosper? by Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Piper is great. I agree - check out don&#039;t waste your life. Or try and track down his sermon called that as well. Very, very good. He&#039;s hardcore calvinist, as in, wouldn&#039;t let an arminian cut his grass kinda thing, so if you can look past that - enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Piper is great. I agree &#8211; check out don&#8217;t waste your life. Or try and track down his sermon called that as well. Very, very good. He&#8217;s hardcore calvinist, as in, wouldn&#8217;t let an arminian cut his grass kinda thing, so if you can look past that &#8211; enjoy!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unblocking and Waitressing by Brian in NZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian in NZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heather, I love hearing about church being lived out in a real, tangible way that demonstrates the love of God instead of just talking about it. Thanks for posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather, I love hearing about church being lived out in a real, tangible way that demonstrates the love of God instead of just talking about it. Thanks for posting.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Live long and prosper? by Tyler dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well regardless of what he believes, that message was straight from God.  I have been struggling with food addiction for years now and God used that message unbelieveably.  Right after I heard it, I was going to the fridge for something terrible and heard, &quot;God is enough.&quot;  I said it to myself and my uncontrollable craving subsided.  I have lost 2 1/2 lbs since sunday and I feel so much better inside and out.  When I think about Mark&#039;s unemployment and get upset (been almost 8 months now), I just say &quot;God is enough&quot; and peace flows through me.  That simple message is changing my life.

GOD IS ENOUGH!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well regardless of what he believes, that message was straight from God.  I have been struggling with food addiction for years now and God used that message unbelieveably.  Right after I heard it, I was going to the fridge for something terrible and heard, &#8220;God is enough.&#8221;  I said it to myself and my uncontrollable craving subsided.  I have lost 2 1/2 lbs since sunday and I feel so much better inside and out.  When I think about Mark&#8217;s unemployment and get upset (been almost 8 months now), I just say &#8220;God is enough&#8221; and peace flows through me.  That simple message is changing my life.</p>
<p>GOD IS ENOUGH!!!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Live long and prosper? by Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will have a look at it, s g.  Thanks.

Tyler, I cried when I first saw it too.

Nate, like I said I had no idea who John Piper is.  I certainly am not going to say that I agree with all (or even any) of his beliefs since I don&#039;t even know what they are - but this video in and of itself I found very compelling.

I hope that if he is doing those things you have described that God would deal with him and work in him, and also to protect and heal those who are broken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will have a look at it, s g.  Thanks.</p>
<p>Tyler, I cried when I first saw it too.</p>
<p>Nate, like I said I had no idea who John Piper is.  I certainly am not going to say that I agree with all (or even any) of his beliefs since I don&#8217;t even know what they are &#8211; but this video in and of itself I found very compelling.</p>
<p>I hope that if he is doing those things you have described that God would deal with him and work in him, and also to protect and heal those who are broken.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Live long and prosper? by Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely, Rachel.  I think we&#039;re definitely on the same page there :-)

The only thing I want to suggest is that perhaps if a Christian finds that they are materially blessed to a point where they have more than they need it may be more Christ-like to give it away to those who are in need rather than to keep it for themselves?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely, Rachel.  I think we&#8217;re definitely on the same page there <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The only thing I want to suggest is that perhaps if a Christian finds that they are materially blessed to a point where they have more than they need it may be more Christ-like to give it away to those who are in need rather than to keep it for themselves?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Live long and prosper? by Nate Peres</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate Peres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Piper is a pastor in the largest church in Mnneapolis. It has a baptist affiliation, and is REDICULOUSLY conservative. His leanings are towards calvinism and predestination of all things. That Gos is completely sovreign in every detail of our lives. I was conversing through a blog with one of the members of his church. A more screwed up individual you could not find anywhere. Being totally persecuted by her church for her &quot;failings&quot;, and continually balming herself for not being able to live up to the standard. It was horrible to watch, so I had to stop. He is an establishment preacher. But, he is terribly devoted to God, so he can&#039;t be all bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Piper is a pastor in the largest church in Mnneapolis. It has a baptist affiliation, and is REDICULOUSLY conservative. His leanings are towards calvinism and predestination of all things. That Gos is completely sovreign in every detail of our lives. I was conversing through a blog with one of the members of his church. A more screwed up individual you could not find anywhere. Being totally persecuted by her church for her &#8220;failings&#8221;, and continually balming herself for not being able to live up to the standard. It was horrible to watch, so I had to stop. He is an establishment preacher. But, he is terribly devoted to God, so he can&#8217;t be all bad.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Live long and prosper? by John Piper on the Prosperity Gospel &#124; prayeramedic</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Piper on the Prosperity Gospel &#124; prayeramedic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] H/T to Heather. [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Live long and prosper? by Tyler dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 20:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel just so broken apart after watching this.  I couldn&#039;t stop crying.  I linked it on my site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel just so broken apart after watching this.  I couldn&#8217;t stop crying.  I linked it on my site.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Live long and prosper? by Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heather -  I agree with you - - the prosperity gospel is evil - it makes stuff the god. It is a total representation of truth. It is selling the gospel for a profit and taking advantage of vulnerable souls which is incredibly sad.  I just often hear a swing too much in the other direction as well which is also a misrepresentation of truth and who God is and steals life from vulnerable souls. Suffering can become a self-righteous thing, like a badge of honor people where. When a lot of times it can be the result of sin and living in a fallen world - and it if is honored then people don&#039;t seek the truth behind their suffering and continue to live in sin and therefore really aren&#039;t honoring God. 

We have to trust God and His spirit in our lives as to where he wants each one of and how he wants to use each one of us.  I believe we aren&#039;t to put any limitations on what God desires for us by following some rules about what He will or won&#039;t provide. ( you see the wide spread of how He works in others lives in the Bible from Abraham to Paul - who are we to put limits on God) Because you never know how He is going to use it.  We have to leave it up to Him to decide what and how much He desires for us. I often see Christians talking about what is appropriate and what isn&#039;t for Christians to have - I don&#039;t think it is for us to judge - what is to judge is when things become our god.  And it isn&#039;t just the ones that have that make them a god, but the ones that don&#039;t and want them. 

Anyway. I really appreciate your comments back to me. There are SO MANY ways God&#039;s truth is misunderstood and misused. The devil is working overtime twisting in all kinds of ways.  May we all hunger and have a burning passion for God&#039;s Word and His truth in our lives.

Rachel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather &#8211;  I agree with you &#8211; - the prosperity gospel is evil &#8211; it makes stuff the god. It is a total representation of truth. It is selling the gospel for a profit and taking advantage of vulnerable souls which is incredibly sad.  I just often hear a swing too much in the other direction as well which is also a misrepresentation of truth and who God is and steals life from vulnerable souls. Suffering can become a self-righteous thing, like a badge of honor people where. When a lot of times it can be the result of sin and living in a fallen world &#8211; and it if is honored then people don&#8217;t seek the truth behind their suffering and continue to live in sin and therefore really aren&#8217;t honoring God. </p>
<p>We have to trust God and His spirit in our lives as to where he wants each one of and how he wants to use each one of us.  I believe we aren&#8217;t to put any limitations on what God desires for us by following some rules about what He will or won&#8217;t provide. ( you see the wide spread of how He works in others lives in the Bible from Abraham to Paul &#8211; who are we to put limits on God) Because you never know how He is going to use it.  We have to leave it up to Him to decide what and how much He desires for us. I often see Christians talking about what is appropriate and what isn&#8217;t for Christians to have &#8211; I don&#8217;t think it is for us to judge &#8211; what is to judge is when things become our god.  And it isn&#8217;t just the ones that have that make them a god, but the ones that don&#8217;t and want them. </p>
<p>Anyway. I really appreciate your comments back to me. There are SO MANY ways God&#8217;s truth is misunderstood and misused. The devil is working overtime twisting in all kinds of ways.  May we all hunger and have a burning passion for God&#8217;s Word and His truth in our lives.</p>
<p>Rachel</p>
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		<title>Comment on Live long and prosper? by s g</title>
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		<dc:creator>s g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 14:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Piper is my hero.  Put his book, Don&#039;t Waste Your Life, on your list of good books to read.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Live long and prosper? by Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rachel.  Thanks so much for your thoughts!

I guess this video may come across as exalting suffering.  I certainly wouldn&#039;t agree that suffering is better - only that when suffering does come in this life (which is unavoidable to most of us) that through it we cling to Jesus.  I&#039;m not a self-flaggelating type who foregoes all pleasure in a bid to share in suffering, and I&#039;m sure John Piper isn&#039;t either.  He probably has a reasonable house, a car, plenty of clothes and food - all that stuff.  As do I.

However, I do think our actual blessings are often overlooked among all our Western wealth, and blessings are usually interpreted as something more than the norm - something special and warm and fuzzy and possibly shiny.  We tend to forget that all the stuff we already have are more than blessing enough, and it&#039;s easy to overlook them.  In comparison to 90% of the world&#039;s population just having a house to live in and food to eat is more blessing than they could ever hope for.

I think this is where the video highlights the insidious nature of the prosperity gospel - the western world is trying to ship it to people who don&#039;t have these things we call blessings - they are not blessed with even the necessities.  We are promising the world and delivering nothing.  We would be better to simply deliver a box of food and leave in silence than to peddle a gospel that is no gospel at all.  God can provide, yes - but what happens when he doesn&#039;t?  Do we (and they) then doubt his faithfulness?  Teaching people who need a miracle just to survive that if they follow God they will have all that they physically need is not just a little misinformation - it&#039;s positively evil.  Teaching them that God loves and cherishes them through any circumstance, and that if they just lean on him he will sustain them spiritually is much better.  Accompanying that with the &#039;cup of water in his name&#039; completes the gospel message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rachel.  Thanks so much for your thoughts!</p>
<p>I guess this video may come across as exalting suffering.  I certainly wouldn&#8217;t agree that suffering is better &#8211; only that when suffering does come in this life (which is unavoidable to most of us) that through it we cling to Jesus.  I&#8217;m not a self-flaggelating type who foregoes all pleasure in a bid to share in suffering, and I&#8217;m sure John Piper isn&#8217;t either.  He probably has a reasonable house, a car, plenty of clothes and food &#8211; all that stuff.  As do I.</p>
<p>However, I do think our actual blessings are often overlooked among all our Western wealth, and blessings are usually interpreted as something more than the norm &#8211; something special and warm and fuzzy and possibly shiny.  We tend to forget that all the stuff we already have are more than blessing enough, and it&#8217;s easy to overlook them.  In comparison to 90% of the world&#8217;s population just having a house to live in and food to eat is more blessing than they could ever hope for.</p>
<p>I think this is where the video highlights the insidious nature of the prosperity gospel &#8211; the western world is trying to ship it to people who don&#8217;t have these things we call blessings &#8211; they are not blessed with even the necessities.  We are promising the world and delivering nothing.  We would be better to simply deliver a box of food and leave in silence than to peddle a gospel that is no gospel at all.  God can provide, yes &#8211; but what happens when he doesn&#8217;t?  Do we (and they) then doubt his faithfulness?  Teaching people who need a miracle just to survive that if they follow God they will have all that they physically need is not just a little misinformation &#8211; it&#8217;s positively evil.  Teaching them that God loves and cherishes them through any circumstance, and that if they just lean on him he will sustain them spiritually is much better.  Accompanying that with the &#8216;cup of water in his name&#8217; completes the gospel message.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Live long and prosper? by Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting . . . it seems both are at the extremes - exalting suffering - exalting materalism. God desires us to know Him, to be completely abandoned to Him and His will whatever that is. Sometimes the best thing for us is going through a hardship because it draws us closer to Him and to seek His truth. However, God is also someone who desires to give us good things - but it isn&#039;t about those things it is about Him. 

In this world of materialism and quick fixes this all gets distorted. In a world, where most including many churches don&#039;t truly trust the spirit&#039;s work in people&#039;s lives to guide them in the right direction, they disregard the good things God desires to give us because of how people have distorted. So, they make is all about suffering. But neglecting God&#039;s goodness isn&#039;t the answer either. Jesus came to heal sin and diease. God physically blessed many of His people. Jesus tells us if our earthly fathers desire to give us good things how much more our heavenly father - but the focus always has to be on God. 

Like all things in life - there is a balance of suffering and blessing (physically and spiritually because they are connected)- which I really didn&#039;t get in this message. 

Bottom line is who do we trust and who we worship and that should be God alone and all that He is. We can&#039;t neglect a part of Him because people have distorted it and we are fearful and non-trusting of the spirit&#039;s work in people&#039;s lives.

Rachel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting . . . it seems both are at the extremes &#8211; exalting suffering &#8211; exalting materalism. God desires us to know Him, to be completely abandoned to Him and His will whatever that is. Sometimes the best thing for us is going through a hardship because it draws us closer to Him and to seek His truth. However, God is also someone who desires to give us good things &#8211; but it isn&#8217;t about those things it is about Him. </p>
<p>In this world of materialism and quick fixes this all gets distorted. In a world, where most including many churches don&#8217;t truly trust the spirit&#8217;s work in people&#8217;s lives to guide them in the right direction, they disregard the good things God desires to give us because of how people have distorted. So, they make is all about suffering. But neglecting God&#8217;s goodness isn&#8217;t the answer either. Jesus came to heal sin and diease. God physically blessed many of His people. Jesus tells us if our earthly fathers desire to give us good things how much more our heavenly father &#8211; but the focus always has to be on God. </p>
<p>Like all things in life &#8211; there is a balance of suffering and blessing (physically and spiritually because they are connected)- which I really didn&#8217;t get in this message. </p>
<p>Bottom line is who do we trust and who we worship and that should be God alone and all that He is. We can&#8217;t neglect a part of Him because people have distorted it and we are fearful and non-trusting of the spirit&#8217;s work in people&#8217;s lives.</p>
<p>Rachel</p>
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